(MSCC) John Mudd, January 3, 2020
TO: Committee Members and General Public
FROM: Matt Green, Councilman Corey Johnson’s Office; John Mudd and Sharon Jasprizza, Midtown South Community Council
SUBJECT: Homeless and Housing Committee Meeting recap for Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 9:30am, plus upcoming meeting reminder and announcements
NOTE: New meeting location, below!
PURPOSE: To develop partnerships and resources to identify problems and find solutions for our homeless and housing crisis
We covered a wide range of topics during our recent December 3, 2019 meeting. Boston’s Barbara McInnes House medical respite bed visit was discussed; voucher programs dominated the meeting.
If any content below is mischaracterized or needs more clarity please let us know. And don’t forget to check out the announcements from our partners at the end of this recap!
CHAIR (December 3, 2019 meeting):Matt Green, Corey Johnson’s Office; Sharon Jasprizza MSCC
POLICY COMMITTEE’S REPORT FOR DECEMBER 3, 2019
The prior 8:30am Policy Meeting’s hour was spent briefly discussing the third draft of our Non-Medical Respite Bed Policy Recommendations (see the latest version Addendum F, pg. 23). The primary subject was medical respite beds, the committee’s visit to Boston’s Barbara McInnes House facility (see details Addendum C, Field Visit to Boston’s Medical Respite, pg. 13), and plans to encourage the development of medical respite beds in NYC.
Daniel Pichinson, Executive Director, Ryan’s Chelsea Health Center, summarized the earlier 8:30 Policy Meeting as follows:
It’s been identified that many housing insecure patients are likely to return to the hospital soon thereafter they are discharged without an appropriate place to recover. Mt. Sinai’s Dr. Andy Coyle, being fully aware of this problem, is partnering with, and renting beds from Communilife so people have time to recover. Health First, United, Metro, and others are recognizing that housing people in the emergency room is not an appropriate use of Medicare dollars and are also renting from Comunilife to save costs. Healthfirst says that 28% of people suffering homelessness who received emergency care return within 30 days because they have no appropriate place to recover. The approach to medical respite is piecemeal; we need a coordinated effort. Recognizing that there is not a coherent citywide approach to this problem, the committee is working towards policy recommendation and ways to encourage the city to fund a pilot program.
The committee drafted a four-step advocacy plan (see Addendum D: Medical Respite Bed Advocacy Plan, pg. 19).
SPEAKER(S) (December 3, 2019 meeting):DHS Leilani introduced Erin Drinkwater, Deputy Commissioner of Mental and Legislative Affairs, Department of Social Services, who presented an overview of HRA’s voucher, history, policies, and more:
VOUCHERS
The voucher programs were developed to provide assistance and prevent homelessness in a runaway rental market. There is no doubt that many of our elderly, medium, and low- to no-income earners are excluded from stable housing opportunities. There is no doubt that certain policies, or the lack thereof, has added to our social crisis. Erin Drinkwater speaks to this, and their new progressive, streamlined choices to mitigate past and current problems.
Advantage History: The previous City and State Advantage Voucher program ended in 2011. The result was a 115% rise within the shelter population. When the Advantage Program was eliminated, it destroyed trust with the participating landlords, because it ended their income and left them seeking evictions through the courts.
City and State FHEPS: The Mayor has been working to reestablish the rental assistance program. The seven different programs (with seven different policies for seven different populations) were confusing for provider, landlords, and clients. To make things more efficient, HRA streamlined and consolidated voucher programs in 2018, to the City and State FHEPS. All other voucher programs should/will be rolled over into the FHEPS program. Those who have become ineligible are likely due to their increase in income.
City FHEPS can be renewed every five years on a case-by-case basis. Funds for these programs are there. Advocates are urging an increase in rental payments, but doing so renders the state program useless. The City is keeping the levels to prevent the landlords from preferring City over State programs.
So if we want increases we must do it on a state and city level.
Consolidation of the housing vouchers went through the capital rule making process and had a public hearing for anyone wanting to provide information to help craft a better program.
CityFHEPS is the broad program that began in October 2019. Funds are there via tax levy. State FHEPS more narrowly focused to serve families with children.
Measurements of progress: Since the DeBlasio administration, 120,000 individuals have been moved out of or avoided the shelters using a variety of assistance such as the 421A, Homeless Set aside, Federal funded Home TBRA (finite program), FHEPS Vouchers, and others.
Tentatively Housed
CityFHEPS is limited for tentatively housed individuals who live within the community. Tenants need to meet the following criteria:
The city is committed to tenant preservation. Those people who fall outside the above criteria have other means of protection such as:
HomeBase can help mediate for a tentatively housed person.
Clients in Shelters
The goal is when someone comes seeking shelter through PATH for families with children, 30th Men’s and adult families, Franklin for Women…DHS wants to ensure that the person is taking advantage of all options to divert them away from the shelter systems, through the Homeless prevention Administration and Homeless diversion unit operating out of PATH. The eligibility runs as high as 40% of the families seeking shelter.
Information Sharing
DHS and HRA share a lot of information. The case file is built during the earlier intake process for housing readiness. DHS uses a sharing information data system called CARES to track and record people’s conditions and welfare.
Erin Drinkwater roughly describes the people who are suffering homelessness:
The Single Intake Process:
The current administration is looking to simplify and progress the program and put shopping letters into the hands of people, not to struggle through bureaucratic processes.
Shopping Letter
DHS provides shopping letters for people seeking new housing, which details the Mayor’s Universal Access program. They also provide additional information about legal services for tenants facing eviction in housing court and what to look for when it comes to source of income discrimination by landlords.
Discrimination is prevalent; its being monitored, and DHS is working on ways to combat it.
There are 100 families who show up to a shelter for assistance every night. Erin tells us that HPD has a record of 70,000 rental units under $800, but she questions how many are really available.
Besides a lack of affordable housing, a runaway rental market with plenty of abuses within (discrimination, deregulation, mini hotel operations), and an unwillingness or lack of incentive for private (and arguably public) to build affordable housing, our crisis screams for supportive service, from medical to social and legal.
NY/NY Agreements
NY1, NY11, NY111 are the City and State agreements promising to build thousands of units with supportive services to serve people who are mentally ill or have a substance abuse problem.
Prior to the Agreement, the New York State Office of Mental Health (OMH) had never funded the construction of permanent housing for mentally ill people, nor paid for on-site services to keep mentally ill people in permanent housing. Allocating capital money to build housing reversed years of OMH policy and signaled a historic change in the agency’s mission by acknowledging that the provision of stable, affordable housing was an integral part of mental health treatment. —The Network, Supportive Housing Network of New York
The Network, Supportive Housing Network of New York provided the following information about the NY/NY agreements and has more to offer on their website:
The 1990 New York/New York Agreement to House Homeless Mentally Ill Individuals was a historic joint effort by the State and City that created 3,615 units of supportive housing and licensed permanent and transitional housing for homeless mentally ill people in New York City. —NY1
In 1999, Mayor Rudy Giuliani and Governor George Pataki agreed to create 1,500 more units for mentally ill homeless within five years. —NY11
In November 2005, Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Governor George Pataki agreed to create “9,000 units of supportive housing for a variety of disabled homeless people in New York City over ten years. —NY111
Did the administrations meet their goals?
More is being added to the allotment of supportive housing—Erin tells us that in 2015 it was decided to bring 15,000 units in 15 years to house 2010E Supportive Housing applicants (people who are severely mentally ill).
The eligibility has changed over time to include HIV patients, and youths who are aging out of the other shelters. Some supportive housing lite (nonprofit leases, and manages a site with basic services) has been added.
DHS is realistic about the housing market:
Other contributions to the increase of homelessness:
A recurring conversation throughout the different administrations has been about the housing shortages.
Natural disasters and domestic violence are not reflected in the DHS’s daily shelter numbers.
Comments / Questions:
Charisma pointed out doubling up (having families stay with other family members) may be reducing the shelter statistics, but does not solve the problem. Charisma’s point, along with many other conversations, goes back to housing supply.
Marni asked about a site nearby the Elizabeth Street Gardens, where the city could build affordable housing: Why are they not doing it?
Phillip (committee member) enrolled in CityFHEPS, from the LINKS program, in 2015, and points out that the media and system puts the onus on the client rather than developers and landlords, and that the landlord/developer should have the responsibility of creating affordable housing and accountability for their unlawful evictions.
Andrew Bonfrancesco, Housing Works, voiced concerns over discriminatory practices around voucher use, enforcing maintenance, repairs, quality conditions, and code compliance.
Vicky Hines brought up the housing specialist employee turnover, which hampers efficiency and client services. She felt that the voucher programs and available housing are constantly changing.
Erik Bottcher, Councilman Speaker Corey Johnson’s office, speaks to the bureaucracy complicating a person’s chance to be housed about six months ago. Erik suggested having a conversation with the person to troubleshoot and find where the breakdown occurred.
Erin, in defense affirmed that the voucher policies are more efficient, and agreed housing availability is a problem.
MEDICAL RESPITE BEDS
Homeless and Housing Committees’s representatives traveled to Boston’s Barbara McInnes House medical respite bed on Thursday October 24, 2019. The team included: MSCC’s John Mudd and Sharon Jasprizza; BronxWorks’ Cassie Dessalines, Mariam Alami, Martha Zabetta, Miliano, Sarah Zammiello, Juan Rivera; Reggie Miller, NYDIS; Ryan’s Chelsea Health clinic’s Sharmistha Mohapatra and Sara Samson.
Cassie organized the October 24, 2019 trip to Boston’s Barbara McInnes House medical respite center to meet David Munson and his department heads to give us an overview of their facility. The goals were to understand the center’s:
Summary: We were looking for any metrics that prove the center’s efficiencies and net worth (see Addendum C: Field Visit to Boston’s Medical Respite, pg. 13).
The committee is meeting their outlined goals, still collecting data, and formulating a process to encourage medical respite bed development.
Erin Drinkwater tells us that the DHS’s General Welfare Committee held a hearing in September of 2019 on medical respites; DHS provided information regarding institutional referrals and process for hospital discharges. She suggests that we look at the testimony and transcripts of that hearing.
The DHS with the Medical Director’s office are having ongoing conversations to find the nexus in which to operate among DHS, hospitals, and providers.
DHS is looking for ways to:
Phillip, of Care for the Homeless, commented that there is an interest on a national level, but NYC is lagging on medical respite beds.
HOSPITAL AND RESPITE CARE
During November’s meeting, Cassie discussed BronxWorks’ staff being embedded in the hospital emergency room (good), and to a much lesser degree during a patient’s respite period (not so good). Embedded social services during the respite period would be advantageous.
Comunilife’s Beverly Raudales spoke about having two respite beds for recovering patients (not medically step-down, but medically discharged). Comunilife works to fulfill care obligations and beyond by securing stable housing. Comunilife is interested in establishing relationships with other homeless services, particularly Urban Pathways.
Pathways from recovery to stable housing are advantageous and somewhat less complicated than other pipelines, as it eliminates street outreach.
The above Hospital and Respite Care summary was carried over from November as it relates to the Medical Respite Advocacy.
NON-MEDICAL RESPITE BED
NYDIS/ESN: The merging of NYDIS and ESN was detailed in the August recap (see MSCC’s web link). NYDIS/ESN is a network of (mostly) congregations, which provide overnight stays for people who are homeless. There is a lack of rules and policy coherence among the respite beds, clients, volunteers, and homeless service providers.
Drafting Policy Recommendations:Cassie Dessalines’ (BronxWorks) and Reggie Miller’s (NYDIS/ESN) are readying a third draft for discussion (see Addendum F: Non Medical Respite Bed Policy Recommendations, pg. 23). The recommendations attempt to balance volunteer training, needs and comfort, along with client needs.
MTA ENFORCEMENT INITIATIVE
In June, the City announced a new “diversion pilot†policy. Somethingto be discussed at a future meeting.
INCOME SAVINGS PROPOSAL (ISP)
DHS’s proposal to mandate (generally) 30% of the shelter residents’ earnings to be put into a savings account effective date is December 15th. The proposal was briefly discussed and is tabled for February’s meeting agenda. For additional information on this proposed new rule please see: NYC Rules .
WORKSHOPS
Current workshop updates: An added workshop “Navigating the Shelter System†is being discussed.
PUBLIC BATHROOM
No updates from the public bathrooms development and planning group.
PUBLIC CONCERNS / POLICE AND COMMUNITY
Anthony Mahepath is MTS Precinct’s new NYPD Homeless outreach contact. There were no public police concerns.
ACTIONABLE LIST
The following are possible actions to consider from this meeting’s discussion:
ANNOUNCEMENTS
ADDENDUM A: POLICY COMMITTEE’S RECAP 11.5.19
(Sub-committee of Homeless and Housing Committee)
November 5, 2019 Policy Meeting Recap
Location: Urban Pathways, 575 8th Avenue, 16 floor (between 38th and 39th Street)
Date: Tuesday, December 3, 2019
Time: 8:30am-9:30am
MEMBERS PRESENT
John Mudd, Sharon Jasprizza, MSCC; Dan Pichinson, Chelsea Ryan Clinic; Andrew Bonfrancesco, Housing Works; Reggie Miller, NYDIS; Vicky Hines; Patricia Miles;
COMMITTEE’S PURPOSE
Review policies and their oversight, determine actions, suggest and lobby for change!
TOPICS
The 8:30am Policy Meeting’s hour was spent briefly discussing the second draft of our Non-Medical Respite Bed Policy Recommendations (see the latest version Addendum E). The primary subject was medical respite beds.
RECAP
The committee discussed whether the goals for Boston’s McInnes House visit were accomplished (see outline of goals under Medical Respite Bed of this document). It was concluded that we went beyond our stated goals: We connected with willing partners, the principal operators of Boston’s Barbara McInnes House, to support our efforts to develop medical respite beds.
Boston’s medical assistance program pays for 60 million dollars to fund both Barbara McInnes medical respite facility (18 mil) and Stacey Krickpatrick (42 mil), a long-term or terminal care and housing facility with wrap around or supportive services. NYC currently would not cover the cost for such facilities through Medicaid.
Daniel’s questions were the drivers of our morning conversation:
The committee thought it prudent to pursue all avenues of advocacy, and roughly shaped a four-step plan to encourage medical respite bed development (see Addendum H Medical Respite Bed Advocacy Plan).
Daniel Pichinson noted that, Medicaid is funded through state and federal dollars. The State has requested 5 billion dollars, out of 1.5 billion set aside, to develop social issues that impact medical services. Hospitals may well be cash flush for projects of our magnitude.
FURTHER PLANNING
ADDENDUM B: BOSTON MASSACHUSETTS MEDICAL RESPITE BED
MASSACHUSETTS / Barbara McInnis House
Agency: Boston Health Care for the Homeless Program
Address: Jean Yawkey Place, 780 Albany Street, Boston, MA 02118 Contact: Sarah Ciambrone, Executive Director, Barbara McInnis House Phone: (857) 654-1701
E-mail: sciambrone@bhchp.org / Website: www.bhchp.org
Description / Established 1993
Since 1988, medical respite care has been an essential component of the continuum of healthcare services provided by the Boston Health Care for the Homeless Program (BHCHP). Originating as shelter-based medical beds, medical respite care for men and women is now provided in one freestanding facility, the 104-bed Barbara McInnis House which is housed in the top three floors of Jean Yawkey Place on Albany Street in Boston and located across the street from Boston Medical Center.
Jean Yawkey Place is home not only to the medical respite program but also the dental program, a busy pharmacy and ambulatory clinic, and administration for Boston Health Care for the Homeless Program.
The McInnis House provides care to men and to women, and provides comprehensive medical, nursing, behavioral, dental, and case management services in an environment sensitive to the needs of homeless adults.
The McInnis House offers three meals per day that are served in the dining room. Patients recuperate in private, semi-private or two to six bedrooms. The program admits patients 24 hours per day, seven days a week from hospitals, shelters, emergency departments, outpatient clinics, and directly from the street by referral from the BHCHP Street Team.
Operating agency: Boston Health Care for the Homeless Program (HCH)
Facility type: Stand-alone / Number of respite beds: 104
Hours of operation: Admissions office – Monday thru Friday, 8am-4:30pm Average length of stay: approx. 12 days
Admission Criteria
• Primary medical problem
• Psychiatrically stable
• Independent in Activities of Daily Living
• In need of short-term recuperative care
• If on methadone, must be enrolled in methadone maintenance program
• Disclosure of known communicable disease, including TB, VRE and MRSA
ADDENDUM C: field visit to Boston Medical Respite
Notes by Ryan Chelsea Center’s Sharmistha Mahapatra, Population Health Manager, and Sara Sansone, Chronic Care Manager
We were welcomed by David Munson, Medical Director of Respite Programs at Boston Health Care for the Homeless. He is also the Chair of the Steering Committee of the Respite Care Providers Network through the National Health Care for the Homeless Council. We also met with the Deputy Chief Financial Officer, Director of Operations and Director of Nursing at Barbara McInnis House. The entire travel team discussed a number of issues with David, some highlights below.
Sites Visited
Barbara McInnis House
Staffing
Admissions and Patients Demographics
Outcomes Data
Billing
Stacy Kirkpatrick House
A first-floor residential setting embedded with separately run supportive housing units, with space for case management, recreation room, and outdoor areas across the street from a large park.
Boston Healthcare for the Homeless
Other Notes
*Sara and Sharmistha have conflicting numbers on this
ADDENDUM D: MEDICAL RESPITE ADVOCACY PLAN FOR NYC
MEDICAL RESPITE BED ADVOCACY PLAN
There is no question that we need medical respite beds in New York City. Many of our service providers will attest to this. People suffering homelessness are deprived of complete recovery alternatives after leaving an emergency room. People are mostly cared for by family or visiting nurses after returning home to ensure successful recovery. People who are homeless do hot have access to aftercare, and hospitals are reluctant to house people beyond their needed emergency care. As one Mount Sinai doctor said, “We’re not a Holiday Inn.â€
A medical respite bed facility can be a pipeline from the hospitals to health, medical, social, and other services, which can lead to housing opportunities.
This four-step plan is to encourage the development of medical respite beds in NYC. This is a plan in progress, not without flexibility, and is open for suggestions.
Step #1 (Began November 2019) Mission:
Describes our mission (the encouragement of medical respite beds) and suggests the following pathways to complete that mission:
A press release describing the committees’ intentions, emphasizing the forthcoming presentations, and encouraging attendance could be prudent.
Step #2 (March 2020) Information Gathering:
This step requires a tremendous amount of information gathering affirming the necessity, sustainability, and capital to develop a respite bed facility. Fortunately there are successful examples and developers who are willing to guide this endeavor. The Information Gathering should include, but not be limited to:
The video presentations should educate, speak to the need, and empower others to advocate for medical respite facilities.
Step #3 (July, August 2020) Administrative, Proposal Development, and Marketing:
This step collates the work from Steps 1 & 2, fills in the gaps, and tailors it to the needs of client and state for a finalized proposal to encourage the development of medical respite beds. This step serves the final presentation and marketing needs, and also encourages support and participation.
Step #4 (September, October 2020) Advocating for Development:
This is the culmination of discussions, meetings, research, discoveries, proposals and presentations to gather the support from nonprofits, city agencies, governing bodies, medical institutions, and humanitarian developers to realize the building of medical respite beds.
ADDENDUM E: COMMUNILIFE BROCHURE
About Comunilife
Founded in 1989, Comunilife is a not-for-profit health and human services agency providing comprehensive mental health, social services and housing. Our mission is to provide vulnerable communities with housing and culturally sensitive support services.
Services are provided to homeless persons living with mental illness, addictive disorders and HIV/AIDS to enable them to live independently in their community. In addition, we provide affordable housing for persons with low income.
Comunilife programs employ our Multicultural Relational Approach for Diverse PopulationsTM which emphasizes respect for people’s cultural differences while mobilizing an individual’s strengths and resources of the community. Comunilife currently serves some 3,500 New York City residents throughout the Bronx, Queens, Brooklyn, and Manhattan.
To make a tax deductible donation please visit www.comunilife.org/donation/. Donations may also be made by mail. For more information contact the development office at (212) 219-1618 ext. 6166 or ikaplan@comunilife.org
Board of Directors: Raquel Ayala, Chairperson Veronica Kelleher, Vice Chairperson Jason P. Torres, Treasurer Frances Pandolfi, Secretary Carolina Buzzetti Gary Calnek Ruben Cardona Amarylis Cortijo, MD Steve Dyott Hazelien Featherstone James Geraghty Pamela J. Maraldo, PhD Carlos R. Piñeiro, Esq Miguel Sanchez, MD Ann Sullivan Marlene Zurack [NEED COMMAS INBETWEEN NAMES]
Rosa M. Gil, DSW Founder, President and CEO
For more information or to discuss medical respite care services contracts, contact: Rosa Cifre, LCSW Chief Program Officer Comunilife, Inc. 462 Seventh Avenue New York, NY 10018 T: (718) 617-1978 info@comunilife.org www.comunilife.org
Comunilife healthy living in community SOCIAL/MEDICAL RESPITE CARE 8/2015
Admission criteria: Social/medical respite care programs will serve persons who:
What is social/medical respite care?
Social/medical respite care is acute and post-acute medical care for persons who are too ill or frail to recover from a physical illness or injury but who are not ill enough to be hospitalized. These individuals may be homeless, or may simply not have a family member or friend to care for them.
Unlike “respite†for caregivers, “social/ medical respite†is short-term residential care that allows individuals the opportunity to rest and recover in a safe environment while accessing medical care and other supportive services. For homeless patients, staff help secure permanent housing prior to discharge from the program. Challenges such as obtaining food, clothing and shelter, or achieving or maintaining sobriety can compromise adherence to medications, physician instructions and follow-up appointments, thus increasing the probability of future hospitalizations.
Social/medical respite care closes the gap between acute medical services provided in hospitals and the need for appropriate housing. It is an essential component of the continuum of health care services for the elderly and the homeless.
Our medical respite care is offered in existing transitional housing.
Why is social/medical respite care needed?
It is not uncommon for persons who live alone and have been hospitalized to be temporarily unable to care for themselves following hospital discharge. In the absence of an available caregiver, social/medical respite care can avoid costly and traumatizing external and unnecessary hospitalization.
For the particularly at-risk homeless population, living on the streets exacerbates health problems, complicates treatment, and disrupts the continuity of care. These people tend to have high rates of physical and mental illness, increased mortality, and frequent hospitalizations.
Research shows that patients who participate in social/medical respite programs are 50 percent less likely to be readmitted to a hospital at three months and twelve months post-hospital discharge.
Social/medical respite care generates significant savings for hospitals and communities, avoiding costly discharge delays as well as reducing hospital readmissions.
ADDENDUM F: NON-MEDICAL RESPITE POLICY RECOMMENDATION
Respite Bed Suggested Policy
DRAFT 11/1/19 Cassie Dessalines with Reggie Miller’s added comments
Respite Bed Suggested Policy
Definition:
Drop-In Center– A Drop-In Center is a location in NYC where anyone can walk in and receive emergency shelter services. This may include a meal, shower, laundry and basic referral and assessment. If found to be chronically street homeless an individual could be placed on case load where they could receive case management services to achieve an end goal of permanent housing. Drop-In Centers have no beds and clients sleep in chairs.
Chronically Street Homeless– To meet eligibility for caseload a person must be able to prove they have lived on the street for 9+ months. This is often proved through a street outreach team (1 per borough) or through a social service agency that has engaged this person on the street.
Respite Beds– (aka Congregation Beds) Community agencies, including churches, community centers, synagogues, etc. will partner with Drop-In centers and allow clients to come and sleep in their facilities overnight. The social service agency will provide supplies such as beds, linens, care kits etc. and the community agency will provide the space and a volunteer to supervise clients overnight.
Who Can Utilize Respite Bed Sites:
In order to meet eligibility criteria to utilize a respite bed, clients will need to hit a certain level of functioning. Administrative staff will be heavily involved in who will be eligible to attend. This eligibility will be determined by the following:
**It is my suggestion that ADL requirements be lifted from the policy already in place. Chronically street homeless individuals often struggle with ADL’s. Poor ADL’s do not pose any danger to other individuals, therefore should not preclude someone from accessing a bed.
Requirements for Respite Sites
Requirements for Drop-In Center
ADDENDUM G: JOSEPHINE ISHMON’S EMAIL
The below email requests updates regarding laundry machines, daycare needs to be added to the agenda, and more…
John, please add day care to the list.
Yesterday, I met briefly with Acacia (who oversees 7 midtown shelters) and
they need more resources, specifically day care and laundry to handle the
influx of homeless families from FEMA. Mothers cannot work without daycare
for their children and they are having problems finding daycare centers
that will take DHS vouchers. I asked them to try Hudson Guild and Polly
Dodge Early Learning Center.
If anyone knows of other daycare centers in the midtown area, please advise.
They also asked for more laundry vouchers and I gave them what I could but
need to keep a good portion in reserve for the start of the school year.
Matt, have we gotten a meeting with NYCHA on laundry machines for the
smaller space?
Best,
Josephine